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Showing posts with label double dip recession. Show all posts

What do we reckon about.................. the recession? A response to Tim Cavanaugh's 26/06/11 article in Reason Magazine (USA).

In Reason Magazine (USA), within his article 'Opposite Sides Agree on Recession/Inflation Bogosity', well-known columnist Tim Cavanaugh talks about my earlier blog post on the recession. Showing the link to my post, he writes;

Can you still believe anybody in this crazy, hill-of-beans, overstimulated, double-dipping world? From the United Queendom, Steve Stone's Keynesian take on the mismeasurement of recessions is getting heavy #recession-hashtag rotation, and while it's not especially deep or broad, it's got a kernel of truth: 
A recession now only 'officially' exists in an economy if there are three successive quarters of negative growth, and as soon as that's no longer the case, it's 'officially' over, and we can all look to the future.
The definition is of course a load of old tosh. If it were true, the long and deep British recession of the 1970's was barely a recession at all - there was just one case of three successive quarters of negative growth, 1973-4, see GDP changes since 1955. And yet I lived through the miners' strike, the power cuts, the three-day week, and the 1978 Winter of Discontent....
Stone concludes by urging readers, "If you enjoyed reading this, please take a look my series of time travel novels," which you should definitely do unless you live in China. But his imagination fails him when he predicts based on past econometric models that "without doubt...the number one indicator of economic activity is house prices."

That may have been true once, and it may be true again, but at least on this side of the pond we're still working our way back through nearly four decades of well-above-CPI real estate inflation. And although, as Reason's Anthony Randazzo is diligently showing, our rulers have come pretty close to nationalizing the industry, real estate markets are still subject to a vast number of distortions by local busybodies, planners and property tax laws. If your predictive measure is the recovery of a market that still needs double-digit percentage price declines just to get back to historical inflation, you should get a new measure. 


Well, I would firstly like to thank Tim for his constructive comments. And it's good to know I'm getting heavy rotation across the pond.

I'd like to say that I was trying to put the argument across in a way that would be palatable to the large majority of readers, not just those people that read The Economist or The Wall Street Journal. What's definitely true is that House Prices are by far the number one economic indicator of demand, so if House Prices are heading upwards, then so will monetary sales of the large majority of common consumer products, such as food, drink, telecommunications products, and many other non-food items. Yes, of course there are many other factors at play, such as unemployment, seasonality, local influences - but if you put a good House Price Index into your econometric sales forecasting model, it will generally stand out from the others as an explanatory variable.

That's really important, because it's consumer sales that ultimately drive us in and out of recession. I think the importance of House Prices as a driver of demand, and thereby a key driver of the level of economic activity, comes from the fact that they are most people's number one 'feelgood' factor. Many people have large mortgages, and movements in House Prices are regularly reported on news stations. If the price of a guy's house is going up, his equity position has improved, and he may well feel more confident going out, and spending his money. If House Prices are going down, he worries about his equity position in the context of the other important things in his life, and might well choose to stay in with the DVD player. And people who don't own their homes also keep up with the news, and know whether the value of their nation's property is going up or down.

Coming out of a recession isn't about "working our way back through" the past, it's about getting to where we need to go. That's why the economies of Britain and America won't truly recover until their housing markets pick up. "That may have been true once, and it may be true again...."

Tim's article continues with an in-depth discussion of how recession might be best defined. Should it be based on two quarters of negative growth, three quarters? My central point is that you can't define the beginning or end of a recession, based on these numbers. But you can feel a recession - it's when there isn't as much traffic on the road as you remember, when there are less people in the local shopping centre than before, when yet another of your local shops or pubs closes down, when sent CVs don't even get an acknowledgement, when another of your friends loses his job, when he can't sell his house anymore for the price he needs to move on.... and yet, courtesy of any quarterly-based growth definition of recession, the politicians can use the numbers to talk things up, and tell you that everything's going to be all right, just around the corner.

That's not necessarily a bad thing. In today's expectations-based world, talking success can often breed success. But when the politicians say that the recession is 'officially' over because of a small positive growth figure one quarter, it's a lie, and a lie that some people will base important decisions on.

Finally, I'd like to thank Tim for plugging my top 100 Kindle bestselling science fiction adventure novels. You can view or buy these great time travel adventures by visiting http://stevestonechat.blogspot.com/2011/06/oh-my-god-steves-gone-mad-hes-offering.html.

I guess time travel is one sure way of getting yourself out of a recession....

What do we reckon about.... the recession?

You'll hear the word somewhere, at least one a day. The politicians tell us through the media that it's 'officially' over, and although there are concerns about a 'double dip', don't worry, because as fragile as the recovery is, everything's going to be all right, anytime soon.

It's a big lie, and the top politicians might not even know it. In fairly simple terms, here's why;

Between the 1930's and 1970's, what can loosely be termed as Keynesian economics dominated Government policy. Everything was based on the reality of supply and demand. Most economists agreed that recession was characterised by 'low or no growth' of economies, say 0-1.5% per year. Reasonable growth was considered to be 2% or 3%, with good growth being regarded as perhaps 4% or 5%. The growth figures of 6% to 12% achieved by some Far East countries in the last third of the 20th century was considered exceptional, as was negative growth, which was considered to be a sign of depression, a state worse than recession.

All that changed with the advancement of monetarism in the late 1970's, and its effect on Government policy. Instead of the reality of supply and demand, the leading principle became expectations. Before too long, key stock market prices became expectation-based. So if a large company only made $3billion, instead of the expected $5billion, stock markets would fall. Similarly, if a report on industrial performance was better than anticipated, stock markets would rise. Not too long ago, I remember a report on Sky News, featuring a guy in America, who was closing his car showroom because of the recession. He speculated that General Motors might face some problems soon. Although General Motors made no comment in the media that day, Sky News later reported that the FTSE100 in London finished 1.5% down 'on the news'....

Following the advancement of monetarism, it didn't take the politicians too long to realise that expectations had become everything. Words gradually became of greater importance than actions. So if you talk something up, it might well get better. If you talk something down, it may well get worse. Some people call this 'spin'. And before too long, a new definition of recession was upon us. A recession now only 'officially' exists in an economy if there are three successive quarters of negative growth, and as soon as that's no longer the case, it's 'officially' over, and we can all look to the future.

The definition is of course a load of old tosh. If it were true, the long and deep British recession of the 1970's was barely a recession at all - there was just one case of three successive quarters of negative growth, 1973-4, see http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/interactive/2008/oct/22/creditcrunch-recession, GDP changes since 1955. And yet I lived through the miners' strike, the power cuts, the three-day week, and the 1978 Winter of Discontent....

The new definition of recession of course enables the politicians to talk everything up, which they believe will make things better, faster. If things aren't going well, they can say it's not a recession, because we haven't had three negative growth quarters, or they can say it's 'officially' over, and we're in a fragile recovery, because the latest quarter shows small positive growth. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's still a lie, which some people will unfortunately base their decisions on.

So where are we really with the recession? Well, I have a lot of experience over the years in econometric modelling - that's trying to explain things using economic data, and then using the knowledge to try and predict the future. I once worked with the Henley Centre for Forecasting, and I can tell you without doubt that the number one indicator of economic activity is house prices. That may well mean bad news for the American economy for a while longer, since the trend in house prices in America still seems to be down. It's probably worse news for the British economy, which tends to run about two years behind the US....



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I guess time travel is one sure way to get yourself out of a recession....